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    This is how superstitions start

    A few years ago, I had just started out for the ballpark and was only a few blocks from my home, and I was approaching a certain major intersection. I had a red light, so I was slowing down, preparing to either make a right turn after stopping (more or less) or on the green if I timed it right. I was almost to the intersection when a car coming from my left at high speed, slammed into a car coming from my right and apparently trying to turn left before the oncoming car got to the intersection - bad move - and the car trying to turn left was propelled sideways through the intersection, through the lanes a short distance in front of me, and into some kind of metal box, possibly the control box for the traffic lights.

    The collision happened very quickly, but the air throughout the intersection instantly filled with a huge cloud of tiny bits of metal, glass and plastic debris, which all seemed to fall in slow motion. I stared numbly for maybe ten or fifteen seconds, then drove up on the sidewalk where I'd be out of the way of any emergency vehicles and ran over to check on the driver of the car that got t-boned. He was conscious and I didn't see any blood or obvious signs of trauma, so I told him to sit tight and I waited with him so he wouldn't be alone. Other cars began coming up on the scene and I knew there'd be numerous 911 calls going out. Fortunately there's a fire station literally a half a block away and a police precinct two blocks up the street, so there were first responders on the scene in a matter of a few minutes.

    This morning, I was on my way to the ballpark a little after 9:30, but instead of going my usual route, which would have taken me through that same intersection, I went the other way because I needed to stop by the bank for some cash for parking and lunch. I'd gotten cash the day before - at a CVS, where I'd gone to use a 25% off coupon that was about to expire - but my son had come down from Flagstaff, where he's working now, to pick up his stuff (and his cat) in a rented van and on the spur of the moment I gave him that cash before he left.

    As I drove to the bank, I was passed by two fire department vehicles going the other way, and I heard or saw other emergency vehicles coming from other directions, heading toward that intersection. I turned on the radio station that has traffic reports every ten minutes and they mentioned a "big accident" that had just happened at that intersection - where, if not for having to go to the bank for cash, I'd have been at just about the time it happened.

    Now, intellectually I'm aware that I've probably driven through that intersection at least five hundred times on the way to the ballpark, as well as passing through it every day on my way to and from work, but...since my two close calls there only occurred on days when I was on my way to see a game, my route on game days will now take me around that intersection. Yeah, it's no doubt kind of dumb, but it's a minor inconvenience and who knows - maybe the Baseball Gods are sending me a message. I'd be a putz not to listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougRich View Post
    A few years ago, I had just started out for the ballpark and was only a few blocks from my home, and I was approaching a certain major intersection. I had a red light, so I was slowing down, preparing to either make a right turn after stopping (more or less) or on the green if I timed it right. I was almost to the intersection when a car coming from my left at high speed, slammed into a car coming from my right and apparently trying to turn left before the oncoming car got to the intersection - bad move - and the car trying to turn left was propelled sideways through the intersection, through the lanes a short distance in front of me, and into some kind of metal box, possibly the control box for the traffic lights.

    The collision happened very quickly, but the air throughout the intersection instantly filled with a huge cloud of tiny bits of metal, glass and plastic debris, which all seemed to fall in slow motion. I stared numbly for maybe ten or fifteen seconds, then drove up on the sidewalk where I'd be out of the way of any emergency vehicles and ran over to check on the driver of the car that got t-boned. He was conscious and I didn't see any blood or obvious signs of trauma, so I told him to sit tight and I waited with him so he wouldn't be alone. Other cars began coming up on the scene and I knew there'd be numerous 911 calls going out. Fortunately there's a fire station literally a half a block away and a police precinct two blocks up the street, so there were first responders on the scene in a matter of a few minutes.

    This morning, I was on my way to the ballpark a little after 9:30, but instead of going my usual route, which would have taken me through that same intersection, I went the other way because I needed to stop by the bank for some cash for parking and lunch. I'd gotten cash the day before - at a CVS, where I'd gone to use a 25% off coupon that was about to expire - but my son had come down from Flagstaff, where he's working now, to pick up his stuff (and his cat) in a rented van and on the spur of the moment I gave him that cash before he left.

    As I drove to the bank, I was passed by two fire department vehicles going the other way, and I heard or saw other emergency vehicles coming from other directions, heading toward that intersection. I turned on the radio station that has traffic reports every ten minutes and they mentioned a "big accident" that had just happened at that intersection - where, if not for having to go to the bank for cash, I'd have been at just about the time it happened.

    Now, intellectually I'm aware that I've probably driven through that intersection at least five hundred times on the way to the ballpark, as well as passing through it every day on my way to and from work, but...since my two close calls there only occurred on days when I was on my way to see a game, my route on game days will now take me around that intersection. Yeah, it's no doubt kind of dumb, but it's a minor inconvenience and who knows - maybe the Baseball Gods are sending me a message. I'd be a putz not to listen.
    I'd do the same. However, I'm wondering if there is a problem with that intersection that is resulting in so many accidents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    I'd do the same. However, I'm wondering if there is a problem with that intersection that is resulting in so many accidents.
    I think there are a number of factors that make it dangerous at certain times; unfortunately, there really isn't a lot that can be done about any of them. It's a vey well maintained street - smooth, straight and open, and just begging for drivers to crank it up. I think the posted speed limit there is 45, but I'd estimate that the car I saw coming from the left, in that accident I saw a few years ago, was going more like 70. Traffic is pretty light there at most times, especially on weekends, which seems to inspire some people to feel justified in driving faster, too.

    Actually there is something that might help in some circumstances, and with people who are paying attention; some parts of the Valley have what they call a lagging green arrow. If you're turning left at an intersection, after the green light is extinguished you get a green left arrow before cross traffic gets the green. Before the green left arrow, you've usually got a red left arrow. That eliminates people creeping out into the intersection to try to turn left before the cross traffic starts. (With that accident I witnessed, the way that car coming from the right was hit there's no doubt he was doing exactly that.) Some of those lagging green left arrows are timed to let eight or ten cars make the turn, depending on how busy the intersection is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougRich View Post
    I think there are a number of factors that make it dangerous at certain times; unfortunately, there really isn't a lot that can be done about any of them. It's a vey well maintained street - smooth, straight and open, and just begging for drivers to crank it up. I think the posted speed limit there is 45, but I'd estimate that the car I saw coming from the left, in that accident I saw a few years ago, was going more like 70. Traffic is pretty light there at most times, especially on weekends, which seems to inspire some people to feel justified in driving faster, too.

    Actually there is something that might help in some circumstances, and with people who are paying attention; some parts of the Valley have what they call a lagging green arrow. If you're turning left at an intersection, after the green light is extinguished you get a green left arrow before cross traffic gets the green. Before the green left arrow, you've usually got a red left arrow. That eliminates people creeping out into the intersection to try to turn left before the cross traffic starts. (With that accident I witnessed, the way that car coming from the right was hit there's no doubt he was doing exactly that.) Some of those lagging green left arrows are timed to let eight or ten cars make the turn, depending on how busy the intersection is.
    Often when excessive speed is a factor, a well-located speed bump can work miracles in forcing traffic to slow down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougRich View Post
    A few years ago, I had just started out for the ballpark and was only a few blocks from my home, and I was approaching a certain major intersection. I had a red light, so I was slowing down, preparing to either make a right turn after stopping (more or less) or on the green if I timed it right. I was almost to the intersection when a car coming from my left at high speed, slammed into a car coming from my right and apparently trying to turn left before the oncoming car got to the intersection - bad move - and the car trying to turn left was propelled sideways through the intersection, through the lanes a short distance in front of me, and into some kind of metal box, possibly the control box for the traffic lights.

    The collision happened very quickly, but the air throughout the intersection instantly filled with a huge cloud of tiny bits of metal, glass and plastic debris, which all seemed to fall in slow motion. I stared numbly for maybe ten or fifteen seconds, then drove up on the sidewalk where I'd be out of the way of any emergency vehicles and ran over to check on the driver of the car that got t-boned. He was conscious and I didn't see any blood or obvious signs of trauma, so I told him to sit tight and I waited with him so he wouldn't be alone. Other cars began coming up on the scene and I knew there'd be numerous 911 calls going out. Fortunately there's a fire station literally a half a block away and a police precinct two blocks up the street, so there were first responders on the scene in a matter of a few minutes.

    This morning, I was on my way to the ballpark a little after 9:30, but instead of going my usual route, which would have taken me through that same intersection, I went the other way because I needed to stop by the bank for some cash for parking and lunch. I'd gotten cash the day before - at a CVS, where I'd gone to use a 25% off coupon that was about to expire - but my son had come down from Flagstaff, where he's working now, to pick up his stuff (and his cat) in a rented van and on the spur of the moment I gave him that cash before he left.

    As I drove to the bank, I was passed by two fire department vehicles going the other way, and I heard or saw other emergency vehicles coming from other directions, heading toward that intersection. I turned on the radio station that has traffic reports every ten minutes and they mentioned a "big accident" that had just happened at that intersection - where, if not for having to go to the bank for cash, I'd have been at just about the time it happened.

    Now, intellectually I'm aware that I've probably driven through that intersection at least five hundred times on the way to the ballpark, as well as passing through it every day on my way to and from work, but...since my two close calls there only occurred on days when I was on my way to see a game, my route on game days will now take me around that intersection. Yeah, it's no doubt kind of dumb, but it's a minor inconvenience and who knows - maybe the Baseball Gods are sending me a message. I'd be a putz not to listen.
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    The problem is, you never really know what's going to be "lucky" and what isn't. About twenty years ago, I was working in a print shop and I found a really old penny in the register one day - 1914, I think - and decided to start carrying it "for good luck". The next day, on the drive in to work, the engine on my Ford Escort seized up and pretty much just took a big mechanical dump in the middle of the Squaw Peak Parkway. I still have a piece of one of the drive shafts as a paperweight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougRich View Post
    The problem is, you never really know what's going to be "lucky" and what isn't. About twenty years ago, I was working in a print shop and I found a really old penny in the register one day - 1914, I think - and decided to start carrying it "for good luck". The next day, on the drive in to work, the engine on my Ford Escort seized up and pretty much just took a big mechanical dump in the middle of the Squaw Peak Parkway. I still have a piece of one of the drive shafts as a paperweight.
    It might not have been the penny but just the "Ford" LoL. In 2004 I was driving my Ford Escort in Phoenix Arizona, and the engine just went klunk, and that was the end of her. I have had several ford cars in my younger day and all of them had something catastrophic happen to them. I do happen to have an older Ford truck now, but I haven't had it long so I don't know about the trucks track records. But the cars, from my own experience not so good. At least the older ones. It wouldn't have mattered even if you carried around a four leaf clover and a lucky gold fish at all times.

    This reminds me of a story, I will copy and paste it. Here is the link http://www.drmarlo.com/?page_id=181

    There is a Chinese Proverb that goes something like this…

    A farmer and his son had a beloved stallion who helped the family earn a living. One day, the horse ran away and their neighbors exclaimed, “Your horse ran away, what terrible luck!” The farmer replied, “Maybe so, maybe not. We’ll see.”

    A few days later, the horse returned home, leading a few wild mares back to the farm as well. The neighbors shouted out, “Your horse has returned, and brought several horses home with him. What great luck!” The farmer replied, “Maybe so, maybe not. We’ll see.”

    Later that week, the farmer’s son was trying to break one of the mares and she threw him to the ground, breaking his leg. The villagers cried, “Your son broke his leg, what terrible luck!” The farmer replied, “Maybe so, maybe not. We’ll see.”

    A few weeks later, soldiers from the national army marched through town, recruiting all the able-bodied boys for the army. They did not take the farmer’s son, still recovering from his injury. Friends shouted, “Your boy is spared, what tremendous luck!” To which the farmer replied, “Maybe so, maybe not. We’ll see.”

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